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  1. Hey Chris,

    Huge fan of the show – I’ve listened to almost every episode as I put mile upon mile on my beater chasing rock all over. Really appreciate the work you do and the psych you give the community.

    Since you get a ton of e-mails I thought to pester you a little bit more about trying to get Wayne Wallace on the show. His climbs in the Cascades, and all over N.America, are legendary—in my eyes, he is the high priest of choss. He’s online (at his blog) and has an instagram too.

    While I’m on it, it would also be awesome to give the South a bit more love on the Enormocast. The Southeast has some of the best rock in America (and some amazing characters to boot). Get Eric Zschiesche on the show and ask him about the Asheboro boulders!! I know he left us for the west, but he’s a massive legend around the NC Piedmont and I’m sure he’s got a lot to say about those early days.

    Anyways, hope you got the little book of poems I sent as a thank you for the stickers and thank you for keeping the Enormocast going—gotta be the best podcast out there.

    1. Thanks for the gift. I did get it. You’re not the first to bring up Wallace. I’ll see what I can do. I’ve chased Zscheische around for a while. Even sat down once but it went off the rails. I’ll see what I can do to get the redo, though he’s just had some pretty serious health problems.

  2. Loved the recent episodes! It was awesome to hear you and TC chat again. Would love to hear you catch-up with J-Star! Your first interview was really great and that dude is all over the place – I’m sure there’s lots of new tales to tell.

    Cheers! Thanks for all the effort over the years.

  3. I’ve gotten to really like this guy as a person. Listened to many.

    Jay Smith (climbed with him at Indian Creek in the 90’s). No ego.
    John Long (transcends climbing).
    Katie Brown (sad and poignant)
    Bradley Carter (great interview and best produced interview)
    Kelly Cordes talking about Marstri
    Croft (the Dali Lama)

    Love to hear from Steve Gerberding. He’s really cool. No ego and he has a great resume. He put up Hardest A5 on El Cap (Reticent Wall) (before they added bolts

    Grand Prize winner: Charlie Porter. No one put up more classic, hard routes in El Cap. Zodiac, Tangerine, and many many more circa early 70’s

    1. I know Steve from the olden times. Did the second ascent of Reticent Wall. I have no idea where he is but shouldn’t be too hard to find. RIP Charlie Porter. He was, indeed, all time.

  4. Hey Chris, I know you don’t have a lot of kids on the show, but there’s a teenage dude out in the Gunks named William Moss who recently put up the hardest route there, a 5.14c called Friend Zone (variation of Brozone). Considering how few trad climbs there are of this difficulty in the world, the history of the Gunks, and the fact that he freed a project that’s twice as old as he is, it might be cool to get him on. Not a lot of kids getting out of the gym at all, let alone sending hard trad. I saw him out there one day filming the route when I was cruising up the 5.4 next door and we chatted about how Z4 cams are rad, he seemed like an interesting kid. Plus, more east coast climbers on the show can’t hurt!

  5. Hey chris, Im one of those east coasters that get psyched any time a familiar name comes up. Does Steve Dambouise still live near rifle? Would love to hear of his time on the east pioneering hard lines.


    1. I know Stevie quite well. I’m not sure he would be interested? But I’ll ask. I’d be psyched to hear about that past stuff, too. I’m sure he’ll be in Rifle next summer.

  6. Hey Chris,

    Love the show, and your rant on the BS softgood gear review from a couple of TAPS ago was super on the nose. Not the Nose, but you get my point. Anyways, you should look into interviewing Pete Takeda. I mean he’s been in the climbing scene since the early 90’s on mountaineering expeditions to Nanda Devi (where him and his team falls into a crevasse for 4 days), he wrote the book, National Geographic: Climb!, and is still crushing it 30 years later. I have a contact with him, if you want me to make the introduction. He is also in Boulder these days along with everyone else if you are ever heading that way again.

    Anyways, hit me up if you want the info,


  7. My name is Eva Happy and I’m a 20 year old super-novice trad climber based out of Bozeman. I love the show. I have listened to every episode all the way back to 2013, and am now making my way through the first 50. Wow. What an awesome project you have brought to life!

    I’m reaching out mostly just to say thank you for all that you’ve done with the show. The amount of climbing history that the Enormocast has steeped me in is truly mind-boggling. There is something so powerful about having access to these stories in podcast-form, especially in an era when meeting a true mentor feels like a thing of the past.

    I’m also reaching out to urge you to get Pat Callis on the show! He is a family friend of mine, and is based out of Bozeman where I am going to school. As I am sure you are well aware, he was a true climbing pioneer. Most especially here in Montana, but really all over the the North American continent. He is still teaching chemistry here at MSU, and has taken me out climbing and hiking-turned-trail-running up in the Bridgers. Needless to say, I can barely keep up. The guy’s over 80.

    There is a decent chance you have already reached out to him without any luck. However, if he has simply escaped your purview, I would be happy to check in with him and give you his email or phone number if he is willing. It would truly be an incredible episode I’m sure, and it would be so sad to miss out on hearing his story in his own words.

    Thanks again, Chris, for all that you do with the Enormocast. It has become an incredible repository of climbing history, preserving so much climbing culture that in some cases would otherwise undoubtedly have been lost. Thank you.

  8. Hey Chris. Long time listener/subscriber, first time commenter. Please consider interviewing Dave Bingham as a guest. Dave is a good friend and a legend in the southern Idaho climbing community. He put up many of the routes at the legendary City of Rocks and climbed there in the early days with folks like Tony Yaniro so he’s got some good stories. He also has a fun backstory where he competed in (and won) NBC’s Survival of the Fittest competition in 1988 and 1990, a predecessor of the American Ninja Warrior-type comps. He is the author of the City of Rocks/Castle Rocks guidebooks and Idaho Underground guidebook. He still climbs and skis regularly and is a good speaker. I can put you in touch with him very easily. Thanks.

  9. Hey Chris, big fan of the show! Thanks for doing what you do. Perhaps you’re tired of people pandering guests at you… well, buckle up cause here’s another. I think you’d have a good chat with Steve Bechtel. He’s been on basically every podcast under the sun, but only ever talks about training. With how long he’s been around and trying hard I know there’s some stories in there that you’d be great at dragging out. Also, if anyone else reads these… pay for your got damn podcasts!! Shill out a couple bucks a month!

  10. Chris, I just listened to this years taps episode. I spend the majority of my time sport climbing, but when it gets cold I venture down to the pebbles below for bouldering. One phrase that needs to be killed off after a send is “let’s go.” You can’t watch a single bouldering video be it V2 or V16 without hearing “LLLEEEETTTSSSSS GOOOOOO!!!” Can we get a little more creative? Hell, even something like “potato chips, assholes” would be ok with me. Or does saying let’s go just mean yes, you did indeed watch the latest mellow video?

    1. I’ll take that over venga and a meurte any day. Funny how the shit people yell for encouragement follows trends, too. “Lets gooooo” will be gone soon enough and replaced by something else “everyone” is saying. Maybe,, just maybe, it will be “potato chips, assholes” if you yell that enough times.

  11. Love this podcast!!!

    I just wanted to suggest a guest… Kelly Halpin is a badass runner (FKT of the Wind River High Route this summer) but she’s been a climber for a lot longer. I don’t have any connection to her, but just thought I’d throw her name out. She was on Mark Twight’s podcast some time back.

  12. Love the show!

    Dave MacLeod would be an awesome guest! He talks about doing hard(& sketchy) trad routes a lot on his YouTube channel which makes me think back to the aid climbing rant & pushing the limits of a certain discipline vs. the risk involved. Also just a super eloquent guy and all round climber.

  13. You should interview Jeffery bowling !!!!!! Love the show !!! He’s right up your ally though !!! Live music guy , married to a professional musician , deeply involved with climbing in the Northern California area !!!

  14. Hi Chris!
    Found your podcast sinking deeper and deeper in to the climbing world. Got in to it to manage my fear of heights 2 years ago at the age of 39 (just as most people starting old wishing I started earlier).
    A bouldering gym rat at first but now getting out there cragging (only sporclimbing thinking of trad climbing scares the crap out of me) now which made me fall even more in love with the sport.
    Always been quite outdoorsy, skiing, mountain biking, horse riding, hiking so the outdoors climbing has really got me hooked.
    It’s so great to listen to all the stories and has awaken memories of my youth dreaming of mountaineering but growing up in a part of Sweden lacking mountains I never really invested any time in chasing those dreams. Spent all my time and money on horses anyways…
    Now I live outside Gothenburg, Sweden, which has a lot of sport crags close by and several climbing gyms so climbing has got me hooked deep…

    Long rant… But just wanted to show you some love. Keep up the good work. The enormocast has become my go to podcast.
    Got some really good tips listening and also great source of inspiration!

    So lots of love from Sweden!

  15. Hi Kalous

    Just listened – again – to # 18, Randy Leavitt. I make no apology for tuning in multiple times to your output; much of it is variously hilarious, informative and inspiring – and possibly all three!

    The shaving thing on Lost In America rang a bell. I recall chatting with RLthe previous Fall in The Lodge Lounge – or however the Yosemite Valley tourist infrastructure was configured that year [ie 1984]; he was about to embark, solo, on Aurora [I think], and was quite excited at the prospect of remaining well-groomed throughout the process. Obviously a practice run for the real thing with ‘Java Man’. I say “chatting” – but this was largely through a mutual acquaintance; he and she chatted, while I simply listened. Yes; even back then from far away Britain I knew exactly who he was, and was ‘well impressed’.

    Back to Britain again. We used to have a bi-annual event called the Buxton Mountaineering Conference. I think that the first one might have been in 1972. It probably ran until some time in the 1980s – although the ‘conference’ bit might well have been ditched when the organisers realised that climbers much preferred listened to other climbers, watching climbing movies and slide-shows, and talking shit to other climbers [about climbing] than attending any event that required one to wear a suit. [I think I went to the precursor, a Mountain Safety Conference in London, in about 1970 – and for anybody who doesn’t know, London rarely manages more than a handful of feet above sea level; it was more boring than I have the time – or indeed the lifespan – to relate.]

    An early highlight in those years was Bob Carmichael’s film ‘Break on Through’, which depicted Roger Briggs and Duncan Ferguson climbing The Naked Edge; a small amount of aid was used, but it still blew our relatively parochial minds! The next milestone was Cesare Maestri, who presented a slideshow/films [I can’t quite remember now] on his climbing in the Dolomites , but finished with a few words about Cerro Torre. I think that he was already in the UK to give a talk to the employees of JCB – sort of a UK equivalent of John Deere – and stepped in at short notice when Robbins had to cancel his planned appearance at the Buxton event. I’m guessing this was 1974; it was after Leo and Co had tried the Southeast Ridge, but before Donini, Bragg and Wilson had climbed Torre Egger and shattered a lot of fervently-held dreams – including, I would imagine, their own. I think that it was generally regarded as pretty brave of Maestri to appear in public in what might well have seemed to him from earlier Mountain coverage as hostile territory; he was duly afforded a standing ovation by an appreciative and generous audience.

    Ok. I’d briefly forgotten where I was going with this, but have just remembered. Leavitt gave a talk, with slides and film, at the Buxton event. I think it must have been early 1980s. It was about base-jumping. I wasn’t particularly interested – or, in fact, at all interested – but happened to wander in at the back at a crucial point. There was a short film showing, following some guys hiking to the top of El Cap and preparing to jump off. I think they bivvied up there, then put on the wide, flappy suits and one of them started running towards the edge. It didn’t register immediately – but the one following close behind with the camera was, presumably, also running towards the edge. In common, I’m sure, with many in the audience who had climbed El Cap, I was thinking “yeah, whatever”, or somesuch. The effect on ones sphincter as the guy with the camera actually followed over the edge – and 3000ft of space suddenly sprang into view – was, however, electrifying. A single word – in hushed unison – escaped from the audience : “SHIT!”

  16. Appreciate the show and your effort. I know you don’t have a ton of boulderers on, but I think Jimmy Webb would be a good guest. I also think Anton Krupicka would be cool. I know he’s a fan of the show too.

  17. Please get Jim Reynolds on your show, as well as taking the speed record on the Rose with brad, he just completed a free solo of the fitz Roy and then downclimbed it.

  18. Hey Chris. Your podcast rocks. Love hearing stories told – “The Lore”. I am curious – where did the name “Enormocast” come from?

    1. The quote in the beginning about the Enormodome is from This is Spinal Tap. I wanted to name it the Enormodome, but was taken. Enormocast came out of that. Now it seems natural that I’d name it the Enormocast.

  19. Dale Bard needs be on the show sometime. Just saying… big old hole in the podcast right now.

    Thanks for all you give to the climbing community Chris. Love it.

  20. Are you going to be at the Ouray Ice Fest this year? We @ Chossy Conversations will be recording some episodes there this year.

  21. Re: Roper, perhaps go through his publisher? (Mountaineers, others?) – has worked for me trying to get in touch w/ people

    For Aquaman, I’d try going through fellow funkster Lenny Kravitz, if I were you … j/k, but fingers crossed!

  22. Hi Chris –

    you must have had tons of requests for each of these, but how about:

    – Jimmy Chin
    – Steve Roper
    – Jason Momoa (could be another “everyman” episode, what do you think …?)

    Keep up the *great* work!

    1. JC is always on the list.
      Roper is a good idea. I wonder how to get in touch?
      Its actually been floated by Aquaman by a mutual friend. No bite. I wouldn’t even know how to begin to get in touch with that dude. Layers and layers of people I’m guessing.

  23. hey !… I listen to you on Spotify, and realized Spotify doesn’t have any “comment or star-rating” anything-system.. So … I looked you up (ppfffiiuuu … internet, right?) to drop you a message and say I really like the enormocast podcast…

    I am going through your library and there are so so so many cool episodes… Brett, Alex, Adam, Mark and Jordan… Arlo… just to many cool people…

    thanks for bringing a bit of those “humans” closer to us who “kinda-praise” them as climbing gods, and with these conversations, we can actually get to know them a bit better and see they bleed like all the rest of us….(Well, except a few that bleed godly-climbing-celestial-black-alien-blood… :DDDD)

      1. Small world! I follow Ram’s adventures on FB. Love your podcast btw, found it via EarthTreks where I climb. Be well buddy!!

  24. Hey! I dug the intro on the latest episode! I’m sure I’ll like the rest of the episode too, as I’m listening currently!

    Anyhow, not only do I appreciate the ads on the show, but I also appreciated the bit where you talked about the ad philosophy and whatnot. It’s kinda meta… and I didn’t feel like waiting till the podcast finished to let ya know. Figured I’d ADD off and forget about it while I’m trying to unpack the beta on this IKEA furniture that you’re helping me crush out and put together!

      1. Anytime I tell someone to start the podcast… I always emphasize that they need to start at the beginning. “Welcome to the Enormocast! Brought to you by.. me.. still.. mostly… just me…” After hearing the start of the ‘cast, their opinion rapidly shifts from “what’s up with the ads!?” To: Bro, we’re glad you made it! ‘Tis all just a matter of perspective

        BTW: The full episode was a fantastic listen, it’s cool to hear folks reflect on all the choices and preferences that led to making the climber they are today!

    1. I’d love to get Shapoopi. Was not in CA long enough. I’d be a bit scared to get Beyer on, but I’d give it a try. Enormo-baby has to do something more rad than fill his diaper- no soft catches here at the Enormocast.

  25. Yes Mr. Kalous
    Hands down the best podcast out there. Been listening to these things from back when you had to load them on a Ipod and there is a too much that leaves the mind unsatisfied.
    May the podcast gods shower you with riches so you never have to climb up that 24′ footer and back roll another shithole!

  26. Goddamn it Mr. Kalous,
    I love this f***ing podcast a little bit. Some of these pointless interviews are like hard drugs to my ears. Furthermore, your intros are some of the greatest parts of this show. I appreciate the work you put in and apologize I cannot afford to contribute any more than these silly comments. Keep up the great work Sir. Kalous. The climbing community owes you more than trust funds can ever repay.



  27. Whilst enduring canmore winter indoors savouring plastic projys I too find myself observing, solipsistically and ego titled, vast swaths of climbers attaching their chalk baggys via a single biner such that chalk baggys are not keeled properly and whence are inefficiently used… ughhh! This drives me crazy! Why can’t they use a belt, piece of cord, shoe lace..anything but a biner? Moreover, some use 2 biners, each attached to respective loops on said bags, thus creating a level bag. This bothers me too. Why not ditch the biners and use a string or belt etc.? Not that weight or bulkiness would ever make an iota of difference for said climbets, it just presents a cleaner and leaner suit for the climber if she simplified her chalk baggys via a belt… ahhhhh… don’t get me started on those all to frequent indoor dilettantes pumping out on their 10+ plactic proj replete with dangling prussick, jangly grigri, miscellaneous locker or two…why? Not to mention concomitant Daisy chains… the horror…

  28. Just listened to the episodes with the alpine Taliban, really interesting views covered on the controversy. Also love the shoutout to midwestern city parks!

    Cheers, ND

  29. Embarrassingly, I only just started listening! Anyhow, after the 10th episode I decided it was time for a major life change, and I got a job with a longer commute so I’ll have enough car time to listen to all the episodes! I dig the good mojo you’ve got cooking!

    Cheers, and happy climbing Chris!

      1. Well, there’s 125 episodes, and at a dollar an episode, I won’t be able to afford that shiz living under a bridge! Plus, all my ropes are ratted out, and I haven’t had any opportunity to sell-out yet!

        I’m on pitch #46 of the podcast at this point. Definitely not a speed record, but I’m pushing hard for the onsight. I have staunchly refused to lower off to listen to any other podcast since the push began, though I’ve definitely hang-dogged the push with that “pause” button.

        Side note, the intro and outro tracks have finally made me understand the term “bright” with regards to audio quality. Every time I hear it roll, I can’t help but feel warm and fuzzy inside like I just placed a bomber #2 in a perfect hand crack after a 50ft runout!

  30. Hey Man! You do great work. I was only exposed to your podcast about two months ago and can’t get enough. I work in the conservation field and easily have ticked 20 to 30 episodes during the past four eight day back country hitches. All love here man!

  31. Hey Chris I really want to hear Austin Howell on the air! I’m really surprised his recent accomplishment of soloing 5700 feet in a day with multiple 5.11+ onsights after recovering from a nasty fall in Yosemite didn’t get as much attention… His blogs if you haven’t read it.

    Have a rad day,

  32. Yo Chris, I was only introduced to the enormocast at episode 100 but it’s become a serious addiction since then. I listen while driving, working, working out, hanging out, hang boarding, and when I’m just bored. For all that, thanks for putting out such an awesome piece of media to get us regular folks familiar with the rock legends we look up to.
    Anywho, I was recently climbing this awesome sport route in Zion called Namaste, and learned afterwards that it was put up by THE Conrad. Have you thought of bringing him on the show? I had no idea he had so many FAs in Zion. Just thought he was a Yosemite big wall aid climber and master of Himalayan badassery. And somehow he keeps getting gnarlier with age. Maybe you can find out what his magic secret is!

  33. Hey Chris,

    Have you thought about trying to get Jim Herson on the show? I’ve always been impressed with his climbing, and his kids are beyond amazing. Would probably make for a rad interview!

  34. Hey Chris!

    I came across the Enormocast a few days ago at work… been addicted ever since. As a novice climber living in Hawaii, I appreciate the insight and introspection that is offered in every episode; I’ve learned a lot. Its refreshing listening to something so bold and creative. You’re appreciated! Keep on keeping on my man!

  35. Chris, I’ve been listening to the Enormocast for about a year now but I’m starting back at the very beginning! So awesome to know where you are now but getting to track it from the beginning– in the future. Happy 100, thanks for doing this, makes the drive to red rock super easy and entertaining!

  36. I just found the enormocast about a week ago and basically haven’t stopped listening since then. thank you Chris for creating this supremely entertaining and informative show.
    Congrats on the new addition by the way. Selfishly, as a new climber in his early 30’s with two small children, I’m really looking forward to getting your perspective on balancing climbing and family time.
    Good luck with everything and keep up the good work.

      1. Hey fellas, we’ve been hauling our toddler boys to every crag in SoCal for a few years now. It can be done! Peep us on the mighty ‘Gram @climberswithkids. We plan to start including some tips (do’s and don’ts) related to climbing and camping with minor offspring. Feel free to send ideas our way!

  37. Yo Chris,

    Long time listener/lurker from Thailand/Louisiana here. I have to say your podcast contributes to majority of my climbing education and I couldn’t have been more thankful that you keep this going. I was fortunate enough to make a trip out to the west and the desert to climb at all the places you mentioned and It probably wouldn’t happen if I’ve never stumble across the Enormocast. Thanks for keep my psych up, dude.

    Now, is there any chance I can get some stickers or merches to spread this out in Thailand? If so, that would be awesome. I also have a temporarily address in Louisiana if that will be easier for postage.

    Thanks again.


  38. Just a big thank you mate. You help me through the shit days at work.
    I’m over in Aus, it can be very lonely as a climber here. Listening to you makes me feel connected, plugged in with the rest of the climbing world, your discussions on subjects I’m not even aware of makes my day. So yea just s big cheers, love your work mate
    Hope your getting big bloody head reading this!

    P.s. More co hosting with cordes, u two make a cracking team

  39. Thanks for putting the time into this thing man. You definitely nail the balance between climbing stories and personal every day life stuff that all climbers can relate to in one way or another. The cast shortens my 5-6 hour drive as a weekend warrior down to the New, Red, or Seneca every Friday, and is much appreciated.

    1 suggestion and 1 beef:

    Suggestion: For the 100th episode or something, maybe have a listeners episode, where listeners email their unique stories, trips, personal stuff, whatever, and then you sort through them to find the top 10 or something that would be enormocastable and then give them a call to briefly talk about it (actually that sounds like a lot of work, probably should make an intern do it and go climb).

    Beef: I think it was the first (or second) James Lucas episode where he talks about his Craigslist ad response and the girl has a pet fish, and you rip on the band Phish. I used to be a Phish hater too man in a previous life, but then I saw the light. Most Phish haters have never been to a show (if you have and it wasn’t your thing, apologies), and so anytime you want to trust a fellow climber and come catch a 20min face-melting Trey jam and a crowd vibe that is unsurpassed, let me know, the ticket is on me.

    1. Great idea. But my requests for listener input is often met with silence. I’ll see what I can come up with.

      Phish. I’ve been down this road ad naseum. Not a fan no matter how big a trampoline you put them on. And not making fun of Phish fans would be like not making fun of a guy wearing a Wham tshirt. It’s too easy and impossible to pass up. You/they are immune to sarcasm as far as I can tell anyway. Like adults who play Magik, you gotta own that shit.

  40. I saw one of your “continue with style” stickers and wondered: have I ever “continued with style”? Maybe recounting such an instance should be a prerequisite for getting that sticker. It would be entertaining reading for those visiting the website. Here’s my wee story: a climb that should have taken 4 hours took 12 hours. Around hour 10, after the sun had set, on the umpteenth belay station, I thought I was going to start sobbing with frustration and exhaustion. My rational brain piped up and said: what good would that really do? that would just bring into a difficult situation a bunch of useless emotion. So I decided: I’m not going to do that; I’m going to power through this experience and get out of it with my dignity and reputation intact.

    1. Just dropped it in the outro of the new ep. It makes the rounds. What about other quotes? I’ve thought about using the “lady, why don’t you go get yourself screwed” bit (George Kennedy on the hotel deck), but don’t want to alienate the ladies. Or “You’re limping…” from the end, but maybe to inside. What am I missing. “I’ll leave the plan for retreat up to you, Dr. Hemlock. It is your specialty” (or something like that) might be useful.

  41. I was on a roadtrip last week with the audio version of America Again: Re-becoming the Greatness We Never Weren’t (Stephen Colbert) playing. It occurred to me that you sound just like him! Has anyone else told you that? The intonation and phrasing (and snarky silliness) are very similar.

    Hope you think that’s a compliment.

  42. I think you’ve done well with getting female guests. Just listening to the Jen Olson show and thought I’d suggest Melissa Arnott. Her name cropped up in the media when there was the brawl on Everest and then I saw a short profile on her in a magazine very recently (can’t recall which, sorry).

    1. Heinous. I need to get in touch with some folks out there and see if there is an inside scoop on this. I am seldom one to preach hard and fast rules about how to rock climb, but a reasonable adult needs to understand a place and a community and learn to live within it. Bolting, and gardening, and gluing, and even chipping can find a home at certain areas, but J Tree has never been a place that accepted any of those easily. Yes, bolts have been accepted on a limited basis, but everyone needs to tread lightly. I can only guess that this incident is the result of one, or a combination of the following: youth, ego, anger. Youth treads heavily without reverence. Ego is righteous in the face of the need for humility. And anger clouds judgement.

      Clearly a group of people acted without respect and hurt the community.

  43. Hi, you were punting around for ideas/topics for your podcast, how about the use of secondhand gear and or borrowed gear. Ebay is so big now that you can search “rock climbing” and get 8,000+ hits in the U.K. I imagine it is a lot more in the U.S. With so much of this suff the history of it’s use and it’s age is unknown.
    With borrowed gear (if you would), if you hade to leave some do you have to replace it like for like? replace with beer or bourbon?

    1. C,

      Used gear is a weird territory to tread because of possible hidden problems. But with aluminum and metal gear, I think modern gear is much more durable and long lasting than we give it credit for. Here is an interesting link related

      but don’t take it as gospel. I don’t know what I could do for a whole show on the subject, maybe an engineer from BD? But I’ll try to mention it on an upcoming listener mail show.

      If you borrow the gear on an adventure of your own and lose/trash it, I think you are at the mercy of the borrowee. Replace or not, with what, is all up to them. However, with most of my partners, if gear that belongs to the other gets dropped/trashed in the course of the an adventure being done together- ie a multi-pitch climb where the rack belongs to one person- its the cost of doing business and should be the discretion of the user if and how they make it up to the other. I’ve come to think of gear as supremely disposable because I’ve burned through so much of it, it just feels like the price of admission to lose some sometimes.

      Thanks for listening and the ideas.


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