On Episode 187, I sit down with recent trad convert, Brittany Goris. We were ensconced on a very cold evening in the Mobile Studio parked in the Supercrack Parking lot in Indian Creek. Brittany started as a boulderer and sport climber but has been spending her energies recently exploring the limits of her trad climbing. For better or worse, she battles constantly with ego and competitiveness, but strives to be her “best self” with every new challenge. The result has been a growing resume of bold trad ascents at the hardest grades with the ultimate dream of the elusive tick of 5.14 trad.