On Episode 250 of the Enormocast, I connect with fellow climbing podcaster, Ryan Devlin. Among many far greater and meaningful accomplishments, Ryan created and runs The Struggle Climbing Podcast. As the name implies, Ryan talks with prominent climbers about not so much their moments of triumph as their moments of struggle. He hopes that we huddled masses floundering on the warm-ups can learn from the struggles of the greats. Also, Ryan and I discuss his successful career in Hollywood and his philanthropic endeavors, and of course, his climbing. All in all, a fun podcast summit between the podcasting FNG (Ryan) and the crusty SOB (me) about life behind the mic.