On Episode 224 of the Enormocast, I connect with bouldering legend, John Sherman. “The Verm”, as he is widely known, is a seminal boulderer in America and the world. Known as much for his antics and his legendary toughness, John Sherman also likely bouldered there first as he spanned the continent looking for and developing blocks. He is also known as the progenitor of the V-grade system, though he wishes now he had not had that particular stoke of genius. Gone from the spotlight for a moment as he pursued photography, John is back in shape and attempting to repeat a route he did 30 years ago: Midnight Lightning.